I tried to respond to comments on "just what the world needs, part 2," but my blog wouldn't let me. Something about questionable content. This is unreasonably long, but questionable? Let me know if you find anything especially risque in the following, and I'll try to tone it down next time.
Thanks for the comments and questions! They made me think...and here is the result of some of that thinking.
First, I think I used the wrong term when I talked about "hedonism," because I don't really think having too much fun is the problem. I think the issue is more respect/self-respect, which has a couple of different aspects. First, if people aren't treated with respect, they are more likely not to respect themselves, and thus make decisions that are only going to hurt them in the long run. Also, people tend to act they way they are treated; if one treats, for example, a teenager from the inner city like a potential criminal, they are more likely to fulfill those expectations than if they are treated respectfully.
The other side of it is, I'm afraid that we too often treat what is really very risky and self-destructive behavior as normal and healthy. Like everybody else I blame the media, but I'm also thinking of things like college and late adolescence generally, which is now generally accepted as a time of "experimentation"--unfortunately these experiments can have some pretty serious consequences, including addiction and illness. Wealthy liberal-arts types can to a greater extent afford to mess around with this stuff, because their families will bail them out if need be, but some people have a lot more to lose and might feel more pressure to go along with these things in order to fit in--or just to be "normal and healthy" like everyone else. But I don't think it's responsible to promote such risky activities as normal and healthy. This doesn't mean everyone has to subscribe to my particular set of values, but should at least think about the potential consequences of what they're doing, and also feel somewhat responsible for impacting or influencing other people.
In saying all this, I'd like to note that I'm not trying to judge other people. What I have most in mind is that I now realize that some of my irresponsible behavior in the past could have had a negative influence on or negative consequences for people I care about. Now I'm probably a little too nervious about the impact of what I do on other people, and this is what prompts my concern about other potential poor advice we're all getting from our culture.
On the slave ownership issue: In some ways the "leveling" interpretation is an appropriate way to view it, in other ways I think it kind of imposes modern ways of thinking onto it. My personal view is that it says more about who God is and what he wants for his people--putting the focus on the nature of God seems to get at the meaning more for me.
On fixing society through social programs--I may not be an expert, but I do have an awful lot of opinions. I think that social programs in other countries have done a lot toward alleviating some social problems, and I think the government should/will have a role in helping with such problems in the U.S. too. I tend to think that the solutions will have to look different here for a variety of reasons. Some of these are practical: the European "welfare states" (that's intended to be descriptive not pejorative) exist in much smaller countries with, I believe, more homogenous societies. The U.S. is simply much larger and would require a gargantuan bureaucracy to handle a similar welfare state--which would not be particularly efficient. Also, there might be a wider variety of different root causes for poverty in the U.S.: in the inner cities, decades of entrenched racism and segregation which still exists practically if not formally in so many areas; rural poverty which results from a simple lack of job opportunities; problems related to illegal immigration, not knowing the language, etc.
Finally, there are more ideological objections, which are my interpretations of some objections which might or might not match my own opinions. In the U.S. we have what I sort of see as a tradition of a high level of responsibility for oneself and one's family as a kind of exchange for the governments keeping its nose out of our business. I see this as the root of some of American's resistance to government welfare programs: first, the average taxpayer figures s/he's is working hard to pay for his or her own existence, and in return the government leaves him or her as free as possible to make his or her own way in life in the way s/he sees fit. Expecting him or her to help out a total stranger through welfare programs seems in a way to endanger this social contract. This ideal, of course, assumes a level playing field, and we know the field isn't really as level as we'd like it to be; the question is, how should we level the field without interfering with this basic ideal--which has in many ways worked out quite well for us?
Second, there's the "social net" theory. Many people are nervous about using government funds for religion-based social programs because they feel this implies government endorsement of the religion and values involved, and fear that those values might somehow be pushed on people who would use those programs. But the government is not an ideology-free zone, in fact no one wants it to take positions on many moral questions, but by not taking a stance it is actually taking the stance that such matters are either morally neutral or that the only genuine concerns in life are those that can be empirically proven--morals are all relative and thus of little concern to anyone but the fanatical.
Many people don't want those "values" to be pushed on people any more than they want Christian values to be pushed on everyone through government fiat--but how can we engineer government programs so they don't? Even with such things as abortion and birth control: these are completely legal, but by funding them to government programs, taxpayers with moral opposition to such things are forced to pay for them for other people. But by not allowing users of public programs access to such medical procedures, the government would be imposing moral values and setting a separate standard of health care for the poor versus the rich.
To me, the best way to approach government welfare programs is by trying to build on our areas of consensus, rather than fight each other for what we want that the other side doesn't--if for no other reason than that once the other side gets in power, any progress our side might have made is all for nought. We all want a level playing field--so what is preventing us, keeping in mind there might not be one simple answer? One area of consensus which is by now taken for granted is that free education through grade 12 is necessary to make people ready to participate in society. Of course, some schools are better than others and this seems to be a difficult problem to solve. On this particular issue, I think the best way to improve schools is to take them on a case-by-case basis which might mean finding a way to empower local governments rather than looking for a federal solution. The "no child left behind" testing solution is incredibly broad-brush, but the federal gov't might not actually be capable of a more subtle approach.
I think we are beginning to develop a consensus that universal health care is also necessary to a level playing field, and will need to find an approach that works for us without becoming too snarled with bureaucracy--and I don't have any brilliant ideas on that one.
I kind of took this question as an excuse for an entirely new blog post. I have some more responses, but this seems quite long enough for now. I appreciate the comments and would appreciate any further comments or responses!
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Part two, here it is. It occurred to me while writing that perhaps I should do some prep work for this, since I'm going to be talking about a lot of things I don't know much about, not only economics this time but also the Bible.
But blogging is no fun if I have to do prep work, and the only reason I blog is for fun. Further, if I did prep work for a blog post, I would seem to be implying that I know what I'm talking about. And I don't want to be on the hook for that. So following are some of my completely unauthoritative, unsubstantiated thoughts on the subject.
Someone once mentioned to me the theory that the Bible tells us to care for the poor, but doesn't tell us specifically how to do that. I can see that point of view, but I feel that the Bible actually gets very specific about how the poor should be cared for. Especially the Old Testament sets down some extremely specific economic rules, which, if followed properly, should make poor people very rare and very well cared-for.
However, it can be difficult to interpret the import these instructions have for our society, because the ancient economy was fundamentally different from ours. In my opinion, the major difference is that the modern economy is money-based, whereas the ancient economy was land-based. The ancient economy was very "weakly monetized": there was no such thing as coins or currency of any kind until the Hellenistic period. There is evidence of systems of valuation based on weights of some valuable metal--such as shekels of silver in the Bible--but this probably doesn't indicate you could walk to your nearest corner store and purchase a goat for X shekels of silver. This was probably a rule-of-thumb technique for determining the relative values of things.
There was also not much in the way of a "market" in ancient times, the market also appeared first in Hellenistic times as the agora. There is some evidence in ancient cities of "shops" or "markets" where basic items could be bought, and also of some kinds of "banking" and "investing" practices. But these were the exception, not the rule. For the most part, the ancient economy was based on land ownership: land was owned by the patriarch of a family who was responsible for the members of his household--typically his wife (or wives), children, servants and slaves. The way one acquired land was either through inheritance or by being granted land by the king. This is the primary way the majority of ancient people were provisioned--nobles as well as more humble people.
Wealth was not primarily measured in money in those days, in fact if someone was trying to get by on a cash basis only, they would probably have a hard time of it, as one couldn't simply go out and buy what one needed--there were no ancient equivalents of supermarkets or malls. It's not that it never happened that people bought things with silver, but that was not the primary way of "doing business."
Land was an even trickier commodity than most to buy or sell for some kind of money equivalent. It did happen, but it was rather a doubtful thing to allow land to go out of one's family. It involved complicated deeds of sale, ceremonies or feasting between the two people/families involved; and sometimes even "adoption" ceremonies, which allowed the parties involved to maintain the fiction that the land was still in the family, even though it was in fact a sale of land.
We can see this in the Bible as well. In Genesis 23, note that Ephron the Hittite is extremely touchy about selling land to Abraham--he wanted to give it to him instead. What does this mean? Well, it may just be a form of haggling, but it also seems that the Hittites are implying some sort of relationship between themselves and Abraham--"what is that between me and you?". It is possible that Abraham wanted to avoid the implied family relationship that would be involved in taking land from the Hittites for free.
Note also that this sale is done before "all the Hittites who had come to the gate of the city," in other words, the sale must be witnessed and approved of by the town elders and any other members of the community, even though the only people actually involved are Ephron and Abraham. Parting with land was thus a matter of concern to the community, not just to individuals.
I believe that land was even more important to the Israelites than it would have been to the heavily urbanized or sophisticated civilizations of Babylon, Assyria, Egypt and so forth. It is from those regions that we have the most evidence of "attached specialists" or "professionals" who derived their livelihood from some kind of income (food rather than money) and land grants, and of markets in which basic goods could be bought and sold. Ancient Israel was rather rural in nature in comparison to those other regions: Judah had only one city of any size, Jerusalem; other than Lachish, the rest of the land was occupied by quite small settlements. Israel had more communities which were citylike in size and function, but still not on the scale or complexity of those found in Mesopotamia.
Keeping this in mind, I think it is easier to understand what the Mosaic law and the prophets were saying about care of the poor. For one thing, land ownership was then what a regular income is to us today: the only guarantee of access to a basic livelihood. The ideal in the Old Testament is that of the ownership of land by each individual family, that each may have his "own vine and fig tree." Almost the worst thing you could do, according to the prophets, was to fraudulently deprive someone of his land (pronoun intentional, which will be discussed more later). But the idea that each family was to be independent on the basis of ownership of its own land was so important that even if the land was acquired through legitimate means--by sale, for example--it had to be returned to its original owner during the jubilee year.
This is a concept that makes little sense in our current economy. I don't think many of us would accept the idea that it is morally imperative to return property which we legitamately bought and paid for to its original owner after a certain period of time. I don't know exactly what to make of this, but here is one idea: Not only in Israel, but in the ancient Near East in general, the land ultimately belonged to God (or gods) and was administered by the king, who granted it to persons and institutions. Perhaps people who acquired the land of others, by fair means or foul, did not in fact "own" it, what they had was the use of the land and its produce. But the land ultimately had to return to its original owner, because it really belonged to God and what God wanted to do with it was to make His people independent by each household's being able to farm its own plot.
The concept of "independence" leads us to a second issue. One did not sell one's land unless one was quite desperate, for the above-mentioned reasons; and after one had sold one's land there were few options left other than to sell oneself and one's family members into slavery. Being a slave was about the worst thing that could happen to an Israelite; God led His people out of slavery, and to go back into it was in a sense a denial of God's will that His people be free. The Mosaic law recognizes this: not only must slaves be freed after a certain period of time, but the slave must be treated as members of one's own family, as the Bible says "because you were slaves in Egypt." If the slave chose to stay with the family after his period of service was up, he was to be treated as one of the family.
Finally, a quick mention of those referred to in the Bible as the utterly destitute: "the widow and the orphan." These persons were completely outside of the ancient economy: in order to have a livelihood, one must be either a male landholder or attached to a male landholder by marriage or family ties. The widow and orphan's connection to an independent livelihood was deceased, and they were dependent on whatever had been left them or the kindness of relatives or strangers on whom they had no real claim. The Old Testament exhorts its people to show justice to and provide for these powerless persons, and I believe other practices such as marriage of one's brother's widow are also in part intended to draw these people back into the economy.
In short, I believe that the Old Testament ideal is of the economic independence of each household (since the family or "household," not the individual, was the economic actor in ancient times). Practices which would seem rather radical to us--the restoration of property after a certain period, marriage of one's brother's widow, etc.--were intended to secure this ideal.
However, something went wrong. The prophets accuse Israel of two Big Sins: apostasy and neglect of the poor. In a sense, these two things go hand in hand: the Mosaic law should have made sure no one was left out of the economy and everyone was provided for. The mere fact that this was not the case was enough to indicate that Israel was not following God's law. The "prep work" I spoke of earlier involved my looking up a paper I wrote once on the book of Amos for Hebrew class; I'm not going to go so far as to do that, but will quote one verse, Amos 2:8
They lie down beside every altar
on garments taken in pledge.
In the house of their god
they drink wine taken as fines.
This verse combines apostasy ("every altar"--Israel was supposed to have only one altar and that was at Jerusalem; "their god"--small g, not Yahweh) with the abuse of the poor ("garments taken in pledge"--the rich took the only thing the poor had left, the shirt off their back; "wine taken as fines"--same idea).
I must admit that I do not always know what people mean when they talk of "doing justice" to the poor. I don't always think this reflects the concept of "justice" in the Bible. The Bible never advocates the redistribution of wealth through taxation. It takes a rather reactionary view of in which women do not have much of an independent role in economy or society and are more or less dependent on the men in their lives; and in which slavery is not forbidden or abolished but is accepted as a fact of life, although with restrictions. The Bible doesn't seek to replace the contemporary economy with an idealized, "progressive" one. Rather, it accepted the ancient economy warts and all and transformed it by requiring those who participated in it to act like God's people--by acting justly and with compassion. Finally, the Old Testament does not have much to say directly about the living wage debate, because "wages" were not a major component of the ancient economy.
However, I think we can take some general lessons from the Old Testament. First, I think we can say that the presence of "dispossessed" persons in society is indicative that there is something wrong with that society--not just those persons--and that what is wrong has something to do with the relationship to God. In what sense is this the case? In a "conservative" sense, in that our society's dedication to instant gratification leads people into sinful lifestyles which inevitably lead to poverty and misery. If people continually choose gratification over responsibility, there is not much we as a society can do for them. But, here is a novel idea: perhaps we as a society have a responsibility not just to care for the poor, but to model responsible living rather than hedonism, and to hold up as an ideal "a person of integrity or rectitude; a person who is morally just, honest, or honourable" (the OED definition of the word "mensch," which I've always liked), rather than the selfish individuals with highly unrealistic lifestyles we typically see on television and movies. The Bible more than suggests that Godly living and compassion for the poor are two sides of the same coin, and I don't think one will be very successful without the other.
On the other hand, nearly as great as the sin of idolatry in the Prophets is the sin of using one's power to dispossess the poor. The Bible was used on TC and elsewhere to defend the employer's right to set wages, and to claim that the employee had no right to complain about those wages no matter what they were. I am doubtful of the Scriptural basis for these claims. I do think, however, that from the employer's point of view, if one is setting low wages to take advantage of the fact that there are people desperate enough to accept those terms, one is abusing one's power to take away that person's livelihood, and that this is a serious problem.
On the other hand, how can we judge whether this is happening, and what should we do about it? Setting low wages to exploit people is one thing; but creating jobs which allow people with few skills and no money to enter the work force, work their way through the ranks or pay their own way through school, etc. is another. To set against the cases of those people who find themselves trapped in low wages, unable to advance; I personally know people who have benefited from the existence of low-wage, low-skill, low-commitment jobs--people who did not have the chance to get an education or family support who were able to begin in these jobs and work their way up to make a decent living. What would happen to people like this, who are hard workers but have had few chances in life, if these jobs were eliminated?
So this is a difficult question for me. From a Biblical point of view, the very existence of homeless people and the working poor in society is a symptom that there is something wrong with that society in God's eyes. But what to do about it is a more difficult question.
For real change to happen, I think what we need is not a revolutionary change in the economic system, but a revolutionary change in the people in it. Even economic system detailed by God Himself in the Mosaic code did not create a perfect society, because the people in it were not obeying; so I don't think we stand much chance in inventing a perfectly just economy on our own.
In a couple of senses, perhaps the New Testament has more to say than the Old about the issue. For one thing, money and wages were a bigger factor during that period than the earlier one. For another, the New Testament was not laying down rules for an entire society, but was for people living within a larger society which was not Christian or even Jewish. The passage I'd like to draw reference to is in Ephesians 6, and here is the passage that strikes horror into the heart of modern hearers (verses 5-7)
5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; 6 not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. 7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.
How can this verse, with its talk of obedient slaves, possibly speak to us today? Well, it only can with reference to verse 9:
9And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.
It often seems to happen that one side of an issue gets more publicity than the other. Wives are told to obey their husbands, but somehow the husband's duty of sacrifical love to the wife gets lost. Employees are expected to do their work and not complain about their pay, but the employer is not considered to be under any obligation to the employee. Or, sometimes, it's the other way around!
The master/slave relationship is not identical to the modern employer/ employee one, but there is an analogy. We are to treat others as we have been treated by God, and we have been treated with more generosity and compassion than we can possibly hope to show in our own lives--but we can try. God gives special instructions on how to treat those who are dependent on us: with the kindness and generosity that we have been shown, remembering they are our equals before God. We are fortunate that as employees we do not have the same level of dependence as slaves do on their masters, but it is the case that most employees have more need of keeping their jobs than the employer has need of retaining the employee--putting the employer in the position of power, and the lower-level the job, the more that is the case.
The New Testament is different from the secular world in that it tells us not to insist on our own rights, but rather to give others their rights. As such, whether or not employers have the right to set wages that keep employees in a state of poverty is beside the point; the important point is that every employer has the opportunity to better the situation of their employees, if they choose to do so. This may not involve setting artificially high wages (whatever that might mean), but rather providing opportunities for employees to better their situation--by helping with access to health care, education, etc.
Can we legislate that? I'm not sure. I don't think it's healthy for society for a large percentage of the population to be in poverty--from a purely selfish point of view, it leads to increased crime, drags down national productivity, puts a burden on taxpayers, and contributes to a dearth of qualified employees to serve me at the mall or phone company. So as a society, I think legislation has a role in keeping poverty to a minimum.
But what if Christian employers went above and beyond what the law requires them to do, voluntarily? I'm sure a lot of them do, although this is not what we hear about on the news. But as Christians, we are supposed to stand out from other people on the basis of our compassion, justice, and Godly living. I think one way to do that is to remain steadfast in maintaining that God's rules for life are not arbitrary, but rather are intended most importantly to glorify God, but also for the good of people. Another way is to show generosity and compassion to those who derive their livelihood from us, by voluntarily giving them a hand up, whether that is increased wages or other means.
If we consider that it is our jobs as Christians to model and call people to lifestyles that promote our health and well-being; perhaps it is also the job of the Christian church to call people on how they use their power over others, rather than just on matters of personal holiness. Many measures of protest and such by Christians seem designed to get the attention of the secular world--they seem to want to shame the church in public, thus implicitly holding it to a secular standard rather than a Christian one. The New Testament explicitly calls Christians to confront one another about sin in private, and to preserve one another's dignity--not to try change or destroy a person by humiliating them. If we consider matters of treatment of employees a Christian matter, perhaps we should approach Christian employers as fellow Christians if they are not behaving in a Christlike manner in the way they run their business and their treatment of employees.
Of course, we need laws about how to treat employees, but no matter what specific laws are in place, somebody will find a way to work around those laws and profit off the system somehow. Only by transforming people will the system work as it should.
That was quite a hodgepodge, and in addition to not doing prep work, I really don't do editing either, so apologize for the mess. And once again, thanks for reading!