{"id":219,"date":"2006-05-11T10:52:53","date_gmt":"2006-05-11T10:52:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/?p=219"},"modified":"2006-05-11T10:52:53","modified_gmt":"2006-05-11T10:52:53","slug":"response","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/?p=219","title":{"rendered":"response"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tried to post this in the comments below, but it was too long \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nHmmm, I don&#8217;t edit these posts very well, and it shows&#8230;the first thing should be omniscience, not omnipotence. And I can see why liberals would feel conservatives are omnipresent &#038; at least trying to be omnipotent.<br \/>\nKim, my take on things is pretty subjective: I find that when I tune in to liberal politicians &#038; commentators, I&#8217;m frequently greeted with a kind of insularity which makes it clear that the person in question isn&#8217;t interested in convincing me b\/c I&#8217;m not worthy of listening or even talking to. On the other hand, if I check out conservatives, I hear stuff like the above which makes me wonder if the person in question has actually gone completely nuts. But neither side has a monopoly on those rhetorical tactics, I&#8217;ve felt the same ways about the opposite sides too.<br \/>\nPerhaps because I don&#8217;t feel like I fit neatly into either camp, so when either side starts playing the &#8220;us against them&#8221; game, I&#8217;m more often the them. Maybe because I am more conservative or because I tend to listen to and read more liberal than conservative sources, I feel like the liberal&#8217;s &#8220;them&#8221; more often than I do the conservative&#8217;s, but conservatives certainly aren&#8217;t innocent of this tactic either. And of course, liberals do create straw-icons of their own and charge cons with hypocrisy too&#8211;hypocrisy isn&#8217;t an illegitimate charge to make, either, it&#8217;s just that when it comes to politicians it&#8217;s almost too easy \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\nI couldn&#8217;t agree more with Jeff&#8217;s second paragraph, but although I like to think I&#8217;m usually the opposite of an alarmist, I also find a more upsetting reason for what I see as the recent escalation of rhetoric combined with the decline of debate. Although America is hardly in crisis yet, I think the terrorist attacks on America pushed us towards a crisis mode of thought, and our ongoing low-level war and the threat of more attacks in the future have kept it going. I think the crisis way of thinking galvanizes people into more extreme ways of thinking, into a &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; form of what was previously merely a political preference&#8211;looking for &#8220;salvation&#8221; through correct politics as well as for &#8220;infidels&#8221; to blame problems on and declare a &#8220;holy&#8221; war against.<br \/>\nBoth sides are equally guilty of this&#8211;of course, not every member of both sides by any stretch of the imagination, but such opinions have gained a greater prominence and it&#8217;s become more socially acceptable to explicitly demonize one&#8217;s opponents in public&#8211;in ways which, I believe, in calmer times would find a forum only in street-corner rants.  It&#8217;s obviously not to the point of actual &#8220;war&#8221; in the way of suppression of alternate viewpoints and so forth, although if devastating enough events occurred here, it could.<br \/>\nIn the meantime, however, I find such rhetoric both frustrating and incredibly counterproductive.  If this really is a crisis moment, we need more than ever to work together and not start choosing sides for an us vs. them showdown.<br \/>\nNow that I think about it, I don&#8217;t recall anyone requesting another crazed rant from me, so guess I&#8217;ll pipe down. Thanks very much for the comments&#8211;I can&#8217;t believe my loony ravings draw such interesting &#038; insightful responses \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tried to post this in the comments below, but it was too long \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-219","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/219","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=219"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/219\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=219"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=219"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stagingpoint.com\/michele\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=219"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}